[19:25:52] «Arrivée» bbrv (3e3bfb9b@cust251-155.dsl.versadsl.be) a joint ce canal. [19:26:10] Hi [19:27:20] could we start sooner than planned...:-) [19:27:39] Good for me :) [19:27:43] works for me to [19:27:48] let's go! [19:30:05] First of all, welcome bbrv to our humble channel, we're glad to have you here [19:30:17] Thank you for inviting us! [19:30:29] :) [19:30:45] How are you? [19:31:52] We are doing great. We had something unexpected come up so we poppped in early. Thanks for being flexible. [19:32:12] That's quite all right, really :) [19:32:21] Do you have access to MorphOS v2.0? Have to tested it? And if so, could you please tell us what you think of it, say compared to v1.5 what are the major differences you are likely to notice? [19:32:48] There are many new features. [19:33:39] It "demos" very well. Many folks have been very impressed - both those familiar with MorphOS and those who are not. [19:34:22] Having said, our role in MorphOS is totally promotional. All we will say today is that it is... [19:34:27] GREAT! :D [19:35:09] The final version of MorphOS2.0 as far as I know won't be free... will it however be included for free with future version of EFIKA? [19:36:10] MorphOS will support the EFIKA. At this point, that is all we can say. We are hoping for the best. Let's see what happens. [19:36:20] My question : Hi ! For you, what is the most important part in a computer today : OS or Hardware ? [19:36:43] Neither! [19:37:53] what is your main market for the EFIKA... amiga people or linux? [19:39:29] bbrv: I am owner of AmigaWeb.net, Tommy Strand [19:39:45] You cannot define the market for the EFIKA in terms of either. Choice is value and the more choices the better. Both (and others) are needed. There is a compounding effect. [19:40:05] Note: It's both Bill Bucks and Raquel Velasco as far as I know answering the questions [19:40:17] why was the pegasos 2 killed off? Was it simply to pave way for the EFIKA or sales or something else [19:40:22] Hi Tommy, hope you received the email...:-) [19:41:11] Hi alef! We have answered this question many times about the Pegasos. How about a new question? :) [19:41:31] There are screenshots on your blog concerning the Open Firmware and NetBoot, any comments on that? Will it be incorporated in new systems, and is it possible to use it on already sold systems like the Efika, Pegasos or Pegasos 2? [19:41:44] is it not good to reanswer the odd question hehe [19:41:56] bbrv: please tell us of the origin of Genesi? (question from me) [19:41:59] What about compatibility, is MorphOS v2.0 fully compatible with previous versions? [19:42:22] now let bbrv have some time to answer, people! [19:42:57] in reference to the netboot question please look here: http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2006/12/efika-comes-to-life.html [19:43:42] genesi is the creation and the beginning....;-) [19:44:09] bbrv: Genesi origins from another company? [19:44:38] Are there any plans for an improved version of the EFIKA? thinking in terms of speed, memory, and such (question from kolla) [19:44:50] alef: what is the real question? :) [19:44:54] bbrv: What arew the chances of making the efika compatible with UBOOT as aposed to getting os4 ported? [19:45:18] bbrv: I want to hear the history of Genesi, any path from earlier companies [19:45:23] one question at a time... i cant even keep up here [19:45:23] bbrv: we were just under the impression that some of the people behind phase5 started bplan/genesi [19:45:43] the EFIKA will evolve with opportunity and hopefully along the strategic path we have charted. [19:46:31] http://www.genesippc.com/contact.php [19:46:36] bbrv: do you have anything to reveal for us here at #amiga (some teaser news) about future strategic path for the EFIKA? [19:47:14] future strategic path... [19:47:38] I may ask in wrong terms [19:47:42] the one you charted :> [19:47:43] I ask about future plans =) [19:47:48] http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2006/11/community-is-computer.html [19:47:54] Are there any alternative boards that might/could run MorphOS v2.0? Is it just a question of finding a board with a similar CPU or is it more complicated then that? [19:48:05] http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2007/02/first-rule-of-advertising.html [19:48:35] We hope MorphOS runs on as many different boards as possible! [19:48:43] nice =) [19:48:46] even MAC hardware bbrv? [19:49:35] Has the MOS Team indicated to you how much more there is to do before the next release? [19:49:37] RE: Apple PowerPC hardware => That would be great, but that is hard work. [19:49:55] i for one think it would be worth the effort [19:50:22] i would love MOS on the move and im sure alot of other ppl would too if there is the demand surely its worth doing [19:50:31] They are working hard. It will be successful. It will be released when it is ready. This is the right approach! [19:50:41] totally [19:50:49] How do you feel about open source? And do you think that there may be possibilities for "older" version of MorphOS becoming open source? [19:51:37] Open Source is a great thing. It has changed the IT world - it saved IBM! [19:52:20] MorphOS is something else (at least today). If it becomes something else one day, that will be the decision of the MorphOS Team. [19:52:31] What systems do you use for your everyday computing? (Amiga, Mac, Pegasos, EFIKA, Linux systems?) [19:53:31] We are traveling. On this trip we have an Apple laptop, a Sony laptop and an EFIKA (running Linux). [19:53:54] How much will the EFIKA with 512 mb memory set me back? And how do i go about getting one with 512mb ram? [19:54:36] The problem is 512MB of RAM is expensive! [19:55:19] will there be a firmware upgrade for the pegasos 1? [19:55:44] Here's a question related to your holliday in Belgium: BBRV have you met with Hyperion. Ben H. in the last two weeks?? [19:55:53] Whether we make a version like this is or not up to the market demand and if Thomas and Gerald think it is a good idea. [19:56:04] Holiday?! [19:56:13] haha :p [19:56:13] We are working here! [19:56:36] Holidays are for islands in the middle of no-where! [19:56:52] There is serious work to do here. [19:56:55] :> [19:56:59] btw bbrv, just a little question along the side, did you get the chance to meet Simon from Amigaclub.be? [19:57:10] :) [19:57:40] Simon did not answer our email, but we noticed he posted it to a forum so we might hear something before we leave this week. [19:58:01] How are the plans for an integrated GFX chip on EFIKA coming along, any eta on that? [19:58:01] will there be a firmware upgrade for the pegasos 1? [19:58:03] When exactly do you leave? I know Simon personally [19:58:24] SteveBook, keep it relivant :> [19:58:34] bbrv: are you religious) (question from me) [19:58:35] Google the MPC5121 - that is the next for the MPC5200B [19:58:45] imho my questions IS relevant =) [19:58:48] HydroUK it is relevant [19:59:00] give them some time to answer now [19:59:15] There will be a version without the integrated graphics and with this SoC we will team it with the XGI part. [19:59:45] BBRV have you met with Hyperion. Ben H. in the last two weeks?? [19:59:59] HydroUK that question is already asked [20:01:04] Religion and beliefs are personal matters. We have our convictions, but they are ours. Each person must find their own way. [20:01:26] BBRV: Hi (long time)... Any timeline for next gen Efika? (mpc5121) [20:01:28] On the subject, we went to a beautiful church today in Brussels. [20:01:46] nice [20:02:02] It is remarkable to think that stain glass windows existed because people could not read.... [20:02:15] :) [20:02:34] image what animations could do paired with different language podcasts! [20:02:48] ...and on an EFIKA of course! [20:03:04] of course [20:03:06] :) [20:03:26] Could you explain in a bit more detail what the letter from ReedSmith posted on your blog implies? [20:03:47] http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2007/05/not-waiting-for-world-to-change-ii.html [20:03:54] RE: ReedSmith [20:04:27] ah ok thanks [20:04:33] There is no implication. There is fact: there is dialogue. [20:05:49] Regarding the statement from january about OS4 on the EFIKA... it was stated: [20:05:50] Genesi has 'announced' it is going to release AmigaOS4 for their EFIKA motherboard as soon as the next release of MorphOS is released. [20:05:57] We have clearly indicated in this thread, we don't need Hyperion's support to port OS4 to the EFIKA - legally or technically. [20:06:03] aslong as there are post s back its ok but please ppl stop asking here ask in #amigaweb then it can be checked otu [20:06:04] could you please elaborate a bit on that? [20:06:23] porting is one thing [20:06:36] making a commercial offer is another [20:06:57] but wouldn't you need hyperion to port it for it to run on the efika? [20:06:58] we would never do that without the involvement of Hyperion [20:07:02] ok... [20:07:08] that's what I was wondering... :) [20:08:13] bbrv Hi Raquel, Bill. Compared to last year(s), how has this half a year been to you financially? Freescale still on the board? no need for numbers of course, but for example has it been less than you expected, satisfactory, or even positive? [20:09:55] do you have an answer for hooligan bbrv? [20:10:05] hi mikko: you know: http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/program/efika [20:10:15] Freescale is a Sponsor [20:10:42] bbrv Have you moved production to China to be able to get the EFIKA down to 99usd? [20:10:44] They bought many hundreds of boards for developers and allowed us to ship them at will to whom we thought best. [20:10:54] We owe them our thanks. [20:11:33] The new manufacturer for the EFIKA is Chinese. [20:11:41] Hi bbrv. About bPlan & Genesi. On your website, the company page mentions bPlan as a possible subdivisiary of Genesi, but there's no direct mention. If I then go to the bPlan website, there's no direct mention of it being own by Genesi. Could you please explain what is the exact relations between bPlan & Genesi ? [20:13:15] 1) http://www.genesippc.com/contact.php, 2) http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/links.html, if you have questions watch this... [20:13:56] http://www.genesippc.com/of_presentation.php [20:14:12] bbrv: do you have any news for this IRC session to be revealed right now? (question from me) [20:14:23] Life is good! [20:14:26] =) [20:14:32] Would MorphOS v2.0 run on say an Amiga 4000 with a Cyberstorm PPC card at its disposal? [20:15:16] hi mike, that is completely up to the MorphOS Team. We do not have anything to do with that decision! [20:15:45] [24/6-20:14:43] why not an efika that fits into old A1200 and A600 cases? :) (edit: wasn't there talk about an A1200 accelerator version some time ago?) [20:16:04] there is an EFIKA Project for this... [20:16:29] http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/program/efika [20:16:35] Please do a search. [20:16:39] BBRV: Hi, has this ongoing lawsuit between Hyperion/AmigaInc affected to your wiew on having OS4 running/sold for Efika? [20:16:47] No. [20:16:50] bbrv: how big do you seriously hope for the future Efika/AmigaOS/MOS future market to be ultimately? (within realistic terms?) (question from me) [20:17:12] Who predict the future? [20:17:20] What is realistic? [20:17:35] Do we need to give you some examples from history? [20:17:49] The Community decides its future! [20:18:24] The outcome is never certain, but it sure does help when we are all pulling on the same rope! [20:18:34] amiga had a large community... ultimately it went under because of poor marketing... so the community isn't everything :) [20:19:15] bbrv: what rope would you prefer being pulled in future? AmigaOS, MOS or both? [20:19:37] 2nd: can you see any future join of the two OS's? [20:19:53] I know, a question a bit offline =) [20:20:05] check back for an earlier answer about choice.... [20:20:16] ok [20:20:25] Are there any common ground to be found between Genesi and Amiga inc at this time? Are you in contact with Amiga inc? [20:21:59] mike: (answer) http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2007/06/lets-do-it-right.html [20:22:15] hi Velcro! [20:22:18] :D [20:22:24] BBRV: why are all the leaders of computer companies named Bill? (Bill Bucks from Genesi, Bill McEwen from Amiga Inc, and ehem Bill Gates of Microsoft) [20:22:31] (nice person) [20:23:19] =) [20:23:21] are they? Check with Sun, Dell, HP and IBM... [20:23:36] Hi Thomas [20:23:42] :) [20:23:43] bbrv: at first, the MorphOS-Team said it would not support the Efika. Then they stepped back and said MorphOS 1,5 (or whatever will be called the next release) would run on the Efika. We then read on forums that it happened because you financially supported them. Could you elaborate on that ? [20:23:43] I don't want to know the exact terms, but just some details, like: how will be distributed the port ? (will it be sold, just like the Pegasos version [20:23:59] We did. [20:24:12] The EFIKA will be supported. [20:24:22] bbrv: what about new firmware? any release date? will it be also available for pegasos 1 and 2? [20:24:36] [20:25:09] This is where we are going: http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2007/06/netboot.html [20:25:19] bbrv out of interest, have you been in contact with Pentti Kouri at any time? As it was quite a shock for us finns to find his name on the companys stockholders list [20:25:22] Please join us when we are there. [20:25:42] Not for many years... [20:26:12] (that was about Mr. Kouri) [20:26:19] bbrv: Are there any plans for a P.A. Semi board (see AInc/Ack) as a desktop system? And what will happen to the OSW and Pegasos8641D? [20:27:49] PA Semi is a genesi customer, however, we are not developing a PA Semi based board. The 8641D and the 970MP Projects are currently idle. [20:28:39] we have 15 minutes more and then we have an unexpected appointment... :-) [20:28:53] what beer do you prefer? =) [20:29:05] lol... mike and his beer... [20:29:06] one with alcohol....:-) [20:29:37] hehe, nice choice i must say =) [20:29:44] bbrv: Projects now listed as "review", when can they expect an answer? And for the record, my project is canned since I bought an old ibook instead :) [20:30:05] bbrv: have you ever played Great Giana Sisters? (question from me) (just out of curiousity =) ) [20:30:51] Lets make that a bit more general alef... BBRV: Did you use Amiga computers back in the days... (A500, A1200, A4000?) or so on [20:31:33] hehe I wanted the GGS part of the answer =) [20:34:23] «Quitter» bbrv (3e3bfb9b@cust251-155.dsl.versadsl.be) s'est déconnecté (Quit: http://chat.efnet.org (Ping timeout)).